.nzb file export in Version 4.xx?

[Karl]

Since the release of 2.1 is taking forever and seventy years:
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

[/betty/]

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Please, No!

Otoh; If it were done simply and properly, and not in the usual
point-missing-overkill or broke-until-it's-never-fixed-yEnc typical
Forte styles; THEN it would be Great Thing.

(why do I have no faith...?)

Fwiw; Add it to the Forte Suggestions page if you seriously want to see
it possibly happen.
If enough users stir the momentum pot they will do it.

[Jaimie Vandenbergh]

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

There's a suggestions box on the forte web site, best put it there.
http://www.forteinc.com/contact/suggest.php

Cheers - Jaimie

[Paul Hantom]

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

[Jaimie Vandenbergh]

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Paul Hantom

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

(cue screeds from the usual suspects about how crap Agent is at
downloading binaries....)

Since I don't agree with my own paranthetical comment, I think both
would be useful.

Mind you, I browse binaries at Easynews's web index so I don't need to
worry about it much. They've just bumped 40 days retention on the web
side, btw. Still only 12 days of binaries on NNTP though.

Cheers - Jaimie

[Paul Hantom]

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Paul Hantom

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

(cue screeds from the usual suspects about how crap Agent is at
downloading binaries....)
Since I don't agree with my own paranthetical comment, I think both
would be useful.

Agent has binary issues, especially dealing with poor servers. With
great servers, and if you automatically save attachments it doesn't have
so many issues; and will have even less with 2.1.

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Mind you, I browse binaries at Easynews's web index so I don't need to
worry about it much.

Wouldn't you like to get NZBs there and process them with Agent?

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
They've just bumped 40 days retention on the web
side, btw. Still only 12 days of binaries on NNTP though.

Rather odd not to have them match, maybe even dangerous legally?

Anyway, I'm not really sure what the OP meant by ".nzb file export."
Since Agent can already "export" an NZB file, I thought (probably
incorrectly) that the OP meant have Agent create an NZB file. That is,
you select a bunch of messages and Agent exports a relevant .NZB. That
would be an odd request.

I often process nzb files retrieved in Agent with Newsbin.

[Karl]

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Paul Hantom

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

(cue screeds from the usual suspects about how crap Agent is at
downloading binaries....)
Since I don't agree with my own paranthetical comment, I think both
would be useful.

Agent has binary issues, especially dealing with poor servers. With
great servers, and if you automatically save attachments it doesn't have
so many issues; and will have even less with 2.1.

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Mind you, I browse binaries at Easynews's web index so I don't need to
worry about it much.

Wouldn't you like to get NZBs there and process them with Agent?

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
They've just bumped 40 days retention on the web
side, btw. Still only 12 days of binaries on NNTP though.

Rather odd not to have them match, maybe even dangerous legally?
Anyway, I'm not really sure what the OP meant by ".nzb file export."
Since Agent can already "export" an NZB file, I thought (probably
incorrectly) that the OP meant have Agent create an NZB file. That is,
you select a bunch of messages and Agent exports a relevant .NZB. That
would be an odd request.

...

A lot of people use Agent for the initial header pull and have
to search another service for .nzb files that they load into
Newsleecher or some other binary reaper.

Please state why it would be such an odd request.

Post by Paul Hantom
I often process nzb files retrieved in Agent with Newsbin.

[Paul Hantom]

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Paul Hantom

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

(cue screeds from the usual suspects about how crap Agent is at
downloading binaries....)
Since I don't agree with my own paranthetical comment, I think both
would be useful.

Agent has binary issues, especially dealing with poor servers. With
great servers, and if you automatically save attachments it doesn't have
so many issues; and will have even less with 2.1.

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Mind you, I browse binaries at Easynews's web index so I don't need to
worry about it much.

Wouldn't you like to get NZBs there and process them with Agent?

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
They've just bumped 40 days retention on the web
side, btw. Still only 12 days of binaries on NNTP though.

Rather odd not to have them match, maybe even dangerous legally?
Anyway, I'm not really sure what the OP meant by ".nzb file export."
Since Agent can already "export" an NZB file, I thought (probably
incorrectly) that the OP meant have Agent create an NZB file. That is,
you select a bunch of messages and Agent exports a relevant .NZB. That
would be an odd request.

A lot of people use Agent for the initial header pull and have
to search another service for .nzb files that they load into
Newsleecher or some other binary reaper.
Please state why it would be such an odd request.

...

So you do want Agent to create an NZB file from selected headers? Mmh,
maybe that is not so odd at all. Is there any newsreader that
currently does this? Sounds like there should be. Still, it seems
unlikely that feature would be added before a feature to process NZB
files. Not unless Forté decide that Agent should be become the
"perfect" front end partner for a binary reaper. Seems unlikely, even
though that is how many people use the product.

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom
I often process nzb files retrieved in Agent with Newsbin.

[Karl]

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Paul Hantom

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

(cue screeds from the usual suspects about how crap Agent is at
downloading binaries....)
Since I don't agree with my own paranthetical comment, I think both
would be useful.

Agent has binary issues, especially dealing with poor servers. With
great servers, and if you automatically save attachments it doesn't have
so many issues; and will have even less with 2.1.

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Mind you, I browse binaries at Easynews's web index so I don't need to
worry about it much.

Wouldn't you like to get NZBs there and process them with Agent?

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
They've just bumped 40 days retention on the web
side, btw. Still only 12 days of binaries on NNTP though.

Rather odd not to have them match, maybe even dangerous legally?
Anyway, I'm not really sure what the OP meant by ".nzb file export."
Since Agent can already "export" an NZB file, I thought (probably
incorrectly) that the OP meant have Agent create an NZB file. That is,
you select a bunch of messages and Agent exports a relevant .NZB. That
would be an odd request.

A lot of people use Agent for the initial header pull and have
to search another service for .nzb files that they load into
Newsleecher or some other binary reaper.
Please state why it would be such an odd request.

So you do want Agent to create an NZB file from selected headers? Mmh,
maybe that is not so odd at all. Is there any newsreader that
currently does this? Sounds like there should be. Still, it seems

...

Newsleecher is capable of creating such a file and even
Newsbin. Paste this into Google and the results will simply stagger
your imagination:
export create .nzb file newsreader

Post by Paul Hantom
unlikely that feature would be added before a feature to process NZB
files. Not unless Forté decide that Agent should be become the
"perfect" front end partner for a binary reaper. Seems unlikely, even
though that is how many people use the product.

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom
I often process nzb files retrieved in Agent with Newsbin.

[m1t0s1s]

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:14:21 -0800, Paul Hantom

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Paul Hantom

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

(cue screeds from the usual suspects about how crap Agent is at
downloading binaries....)
Since I don't agree with my own paranthetical comment, I think both
would be useful.

Agent has binary issues, especially dealing with poor servers. With
great servers, and if you automatically save attachments it doesn't have
so many issues; and will have even less with 2.1.

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Mind you, I browse binaries at Easynews's web index so I don't need to
worry about it much.

Wouldn't you like to get NZBs there and process them with Agent?

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
They've just bumped 40 days retention on the web
side, btw. Still only 12 days of binaries on NNTP though.

Rather odd not to have them match, maybe even dangerous legally?
Anyway, I'm not really sure what the OP meant by ".nzb file export."
Since Agent can already "export" an NZB file, I thought (probably
incorrectly) that the OP meant have Agent create an NZB file. That is,
you select a bunch of messages and Agent exports a relevant .NZB. That
would be an odd request.
I often process nzb files retrieved in Agent with Newsbin.

...

get nzbget from sourceforge.net

==============================================================
remove monkey to email

[DC]

Power Post "2000" (latest versions) support the creation of NZB
Long binary groups use "coded" headers (LOTS of coded headers)
It is a waste of time to download headers in the large DVD groups and not
understand the codes
(or constantly be looking up the code)
If you have fast broadband, you will want NZB support. (and 50%++ Americans
have BB)
I am using Agent less and less (only for smaller groups like DivX)
I have not upgraded to 2.0 version (who WANTS to download 4 megs of headers
at once)
Binary readers are great for NZB, but not for text.
I believe Easynews' HTML support it.
Some news-services do not support; like Teranews
Yes, you might have to pay for a newsgroup indexing service ($USA0.50/wk),
but it is well worth it.
Let's face it, Forte's Agent road map to the future is more like a visit to
a dinosaur museum.

Post by m1t0s1s
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:14:21 -0800, Paul Hantom

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Paul Hantom

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

(cue screeds from the usual suspects about how crap Agent is at
downloading binaries....)
Since I don't agree with my own paranthetical comment, I think both
would be useful.

Agent has binary issues, especially dealing with poor servers. With
great servers, and if you automatically save attachments it doesn't have
so many issues; and will have even less with 2.1.

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Mind you, I browse binaries at Easynews's web index so I don't need to
worry about it much.

Wouldn't you like to get NZBs there and process them with Agent?

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
They've just bumped 40 days retention on the web
side, btw. Still only 12 days of binaries on NNTP though.

Rather odd not to have them match, maybe even dangerous legally?
Anyway, I'm not really sure what the OP meant by ".nzb file export."
Since Agent can already "export" an NZB file, I thought (probably
incorrectly) that the OP meant have Agent create an NZB file. That is,
you select a bunch of messages and Agent exports a relevant .NZB. That
would be an odd request.
I often process nzb files retrieved in Agent with Newsbin.

get nzbget from sourceforge.net
==============================================================
remove monkey to email

...

[Bart Van Hemelen]

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 02:57:57 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Mind you, I browse binaries at Easynews's web index so I don't need to
worry about it much. They've just bumped 40 days retention on the web
side, btw. Still only 12 days of binaries on NNTP though.

NNTP will soon be up to 40 days too, they're testign the hardware (=
extra storage) right now. Oh, and they're working on a new Global
Search and there are plans to incorporate nbz generation in that.

[/betty/]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:38:38 GMT, Bart Van Hemelen used 11 lines to

Post by Bart Van Hemelen
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 02:57:57 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh

Post by Jaimie Vandenbergh
Mind you, I browse binaries at Easynews's web index so I don't need to
worry about it much. They've just bumped 40 days retention on the web
side, btw. Still only 12 days of binaries on NNTP though.

NNTP will soon be up to 40 days too, they're testign the hardware (=
extra storage) right now.

Well that explains it. I wish the bludgers would hurry up with their
silly testing done and stop these intermittent * not available service
breaks that I've been getting over past several days. :)

Who needs Goooogle levels of retention on the News Service anyway?
If content ain't gonna complete in 5 days max (because an NSPs peerings
is so pathetic, or their expirations methods aren't config'd properly
and may have screwed up and culled..), then it ain't gonna complete!
Solution is simple, get a real NSP.

And if users can't keep up and retrieve all stuff they want within a
reasonable 20 days or so retention~expiry period (giving an effective 15
days window) then it's a serious PLBKAC issue, out of the control of
what a good NSP is.

Big services aren't 'good' service (GN is prime example), it's overall
QoS at good price levels that counts.
(and IMhO EN is great value NSP, probably best out there currently)

Post by Bart Van Hemelen
Oh, and they're working on a new Global
Search and there are plans to incorporate nbz generation in that.

Got GS (plus full .nzb) support in my client, so EN can shove that. :)

The remote .nzb generation could be useful though, if it was included in
the sub or low cost extra.

[Karl]

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

Import an nzb file into a newsreader that only is capable of opening
two lousy connections?

You must have Rocks in your head.

[Paul Hantom]

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

Import an nzb file into a newsreader that only is capable of opening
two lousy connections?

For many people that is irrelevant. They can run full speed with one
connection.

Post by Karl
You must have Rocks in your head.

Fuck you too.

[Karl]

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

Import an nzb file into a newsreader that only is capable of opening
two lousy connections?

For many people that is irrelevant. They can run full speed with one
connection.

Post by Karl
You must have Rocks in your head.

Fuck you too.

Classic response from a childish imbecile that can't accept the truth.


haveaniceday.

[Paul Hantom]

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

Import an nzb file into a newsreader that only is capable of opening
two lousy connections?

For many people that is irrelevant. They can run full speed with one
connection.

Post by Karl
You must have Rocks in your head.

Fuck you too.

Classic response from a childish imbecile that can't accept the truth.

...

The childish response was your, "You must have Rocks in your head." The
confirmation was you not expecting anyone to return the favour. Your
narrow view of the situation is anything but the truth.

[Karl]

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

Import an nzb file into a newsreader that only is capable of opening
two lousy connections?

For many people that is irrelevant. They can run full speed with one
connection.

Post by Karl
You must have Rocks in your head.

Fuck you too.

Classic response from a childish imbecile that can't accept the truth.

The childish response was your, "You must have Rocks in your head." The
confirmation was you not expecting anyone to return the favour. Your
narrow view of the situation is anything but the truth.

...

"You must have Rocks in your head." was an evaluation of anyone
who would think of importing an .nzb file into Agent. "Fuck you too."
is a knee-jerk reply from someone with an inadequate command of the
English Language and the mentality of a Chimpanzee.
So stop sniveling and take some time to plan the preconceived
notions that will be sent in a reply before your furry little fingers
fly all over that keyboard and have another chance to outpace rational
thought.
haveaniceday.

[Jaimie Vandenbergh]

crap

Well, I can see someone who won't be getting any helpful answers next
time... Do us a favour and don't nymshift, eh?

Jaimie

[Paul Hantom]

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

Import an nzb file into a newsreader that only is capable of opening
two lousy connections?

For many people that is irrelevant. They can run full speed with one
connection.

Post by Karl
You must have Rocks in your head.

Fuck you too.

Classic response from a childish imbecile that can't accept the truth.

The childish response was your, "You must have Rocks in your head." The
confirmation was you not expecting anyone to return the favour. Your
narrow view of the situation is anything but the truth.

"You must have Rocks in your head." was an evaluation of anyone
who would think of importing an .nzb file into Agent.

...

It was a childish, personal insult. It was not rational thought at all.
Lots of people would like to import an nzb file into Agent. Those with
servers that suck, bandwidth wise probably don't. That you expected to
not have the insult returned clearly demonstrates who would be upstaged
by a chimpanzee.

Post by Karl
"Fuck you too." is a knee-jerk reply from someone with an inadequate command
of the English Language and the mentality of a Chimpanzee.

Wrong! It was simply adult language appropriate to reflect the
offensiveness of your childish, unwarranted, personal attack.

Post by Karl
So stop sniveling and take some time to plan the preconceived
notions that will be sent in a reply before your furry little fingers
fly all over that keyboard and have another chance to outpace rational
thought.

It was you that was sniveling when I returned your rudeness. Can dish
it out but can't take it? So typical. And you continue to demonstrate
that all you are capable of are continued insults, rather than reasoned
argument.

Goodbye, you microcephalic asshole.

*PLONK*

[Merl]

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl

Post by Paul Hantom

Post by Karl
Could the nice people at Forte please add this feature to the next
build of 2.0.xxx?

Why!? Wouldn't it be useful to many more people to have Agent *import*
an nzb file?

Import an nzb file into a newsreader that only is capable of opening
two lousy connections?

For many people that is irrelevant. They can run full speed with one
connection.

Post by Karl
You must have Rocks in your head.

Fuck you too.

Classic response from a childish imbecile that can't accept the truth.

The childish response was your, "You must have Rocks in your head." The
confirmation was you not expecting anyone to return the favour. Your
narrow view of the situation is anything but the truth.

"You must have Rocks in your head." was an evaluation of anyone
who would think of importing an .nzb file into Agent.

It was a childish, personal insult. It was not rational thought at all.
Lots of people would like to import an nzb file into Agent. Those with
servers that suck, bandwidth wise probably don't. That you expected to
not have the insult returned clearly demonstrates who would be upstaged
by a chimpanzee.

Post by Karl
"Fuck you too." is a knee-jerk reply from someone with an inadequate command
of the English Language and the mentality of a Chimpanzee.

Wrong! It was simply adult language appropriate to reflect the
offensiveness of your childish, unwarranted, personal attack.

Post by Karl
So stop sniveling and take some time to plan the preconceived
notions that will be sent in a reply before your furry little fingers
fly all over that keyboard and have another chance to outpace rational
thought.

It was you that was sniveling when I returned your rudeness. Can dish
it out but can't take it? So typical. And you continue to demonstrate
that all you are capable of are continued insults, rather than reasoned
argument.
Goodbye, you microcephalic asshole.
*PLONK*

...

Please observe how the last two lines are worded, boys and girls.
A simple translation could be: "I have sent one last message to this
thread and will hike up my skirt and run like a little bitch"

Paul, you have always been a sniveling bitch that always must have the
last word.

[Rom]

Post by Karl
haveaniceday.

People are creatures of habit.