Order of tabs from left to right etc. ver 6

[micky]

Two interesting things:

A) I found out what I didnt' like about version 6 compared to prior
versions. Is there any way to make a Reply tab appear just to the
right of the post being replied to, instead of at the far right end of
the row of tabs?

B) I was trying to use Help/F1 and I crashed version 6!

B first. It asked me to send a report but I figured they're not going to
repair version 6 anyhow, so there is no point in sending the report. Is
that so? Even though it closed every tab but one, including posts I
was working on. Of course I had saved the most recent version.

A During testing a few years ago what I didn't like is that if I reply
to a post, and while writing the reply I want to look at other posts in
the thread, in the same newsgroup, Alt-Tab would take me to the original
ng. But in version 6, alt-tab takes me one tab to the left of the
Reply tab, and that tab will likely have nothing to do with it. Is
there any way to make alt-tab go back ot the previously used tab, or
better yet, to make a reply open just to the right of the post it is in
reply to?


It's still worth using ver 6 because from session to session, it
remembers all my open ngs and posts

[Nobody]

Post by micky
A) I found out what I didnt' like about version 6 compared to prior
versions. Is there any way to make a Reply tab appear just to the
right of the post being replied to, instead of at the far right end of
the row of tabs?
B) I was trying to use Help/F1 and I crashed version 6!
B first. It asked me to send a report but I figured they're not going to
repair version 6 anyhow, so there is no point in sending the report. Is
that so? Even though it closed every tab but one, including posts I
was working on. Of course I had saved the most recent version.
A During testing a few years ago what I didn't like is that if I reply
to a post, and while writing the reply I want to look at other posts in
the thread, in the same newsgroup, Alt-Tab would take me to the original
ng. But in version 6, alt-tab takes me one tab to the left of the
Reply tab, and that tab will likely have nothing to do with it. Is
there any way to make alt-tab go back ot the previously used tab, or
better yet, to make a reply open just to the right of the post it is in
reply to?
It's still worth using ver 6 because from session to session, it
remembers all my open ngs and posts

I hafta ask.

Does anything you use work?

[Ralph Fox]

Subject: Order of tabs from left to right etc. ver 6
A) I found out what I didnt' like about version 6 compared to prior
versions. Is there any way to make a Reply tab appear just to the
right of the post being replied to, instead of at the far right end of
the row of tabs?

A) No, and there never was. The "compared to prior versions" must have
been a senior moment.

* The same thing happens in version 5. In version 5 the reply tab
also appears at the far right.

* In version 4.2 and earlier, there are no tabs.

[micky]

In alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent, on Sat, 02 Dec 2023 16:22:19

Post by Ralph Fox

Subject: Order of tabs from left to right etc. ver 6
A) I found out what I didnt' like about version 6 compared to prior
versions. Is there any way to make a Reply tab appear just to the
right of the post being replied to, instead of at the far right end of
the row of tabs?

A) No, and there never was. The "compared to prior versions" must have
been a senior moment.
* The same thing happens in version 5. In version 5 the reply tab
also appears at the far right.
* In version 4.2 and earlier, there are no tabs.

That's true, there were no tabs, but one instance of alt-tab or maybe
shift-alt-tab would take you back to the window you just left, which (if
you hadn't done anything in between) was the post which you were
replying to. From there you could look at the whole thread. That's
what I was thinking of.

[Geoff]

Post by micky
In alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent, on Sat, 02 Dec 2023 16:22:19

Post by Ralph Fox

Subject: Order of tabs from left to right etc. ver 6
A) I found out what I didnt' like about version 6 compared to prior
versions. Is there any way to make a Reply tab appear just to the
right of the post being replied to, instead of at the far right end of
the row of tabs?

A) No, and there never was. The "compared to prior versions" must have
been a senior moment.
* The same thing happens in version 5. In version 5 the reply tab
also appears at the far right.
* In version 4.2 and earlier, there are no tabs.

That's true, there were no tabs, but one instance of alt-tab or maybe
shift-alt-tab would take you back to the window you just left, which (if
you hadn't done anything in between) was the post which you were
replying to. From there you could look at the whole thread. That's
what I was thinking of.

Tab progresses through the panes in Agent. Shift-Tab progresses in
reverse of that. Alt-Tab is the Windows hotkey for changing from one
window to another and Shift-Alt-Tab reverses that direction.

[Ralph Fox]

Post by Geoff

Post by micky
That's true, there were no tabs, but one instance of alt-tab or maybe
shift-alt-tab would take you back to the window you just left, which (if
you hadn't done anything in between) was the post which you were
replying to. From there you could look at the whole thread. That's
what I was thinking of.

You must not be using it regularly when you don't have the key combo right. :-/

Post by Geoff
Tab progresses through the panes in Agent. Shift-Tab progresses in
reverse of that. Alt-Tab is the Windows hotkey for changing from one
window to another and Shift-Alt-Tab reverses that direction.

1. The key combos to go from one Agent _window_ to another are
Control-Tab and Shift-Control-Tab. (F6 and Shift-F6 also work.)

Alt-Tab and Shift-Alt-Tab will take you away from Agent to another
program on the Windows taskbar.

Tab and Shift-Tab will take you from one Agent browser pane to
another, but not from one Agent _window_ to another (i.e., not
such as between an Agent compose window and an Agent browser
window).


2. In Agent 4.2 and earlier (which had no tabs), Control-Tab and
Shift-Control-Tab would take you through Agent's MDI child windows
in Z-order (downwards or upwards).

You cannot see the Z-order when the MDI child windows are
maximized inside Agent . To see the Z-order, use the Agent menu
"Window >> Cascade". Then you will see the Z-order as the order
in which the windows are stacked on top of each other.

When you replied to a message in Agent 4.2 and earlier...
* The compose window would be top in the Z-order;
* The window you just left would be second-to-top in the Z-order;
* Control-Tab would take you to the window second-to-top in
Z-order, the window you just left showing the original message.


3. In Agent 5.0 and later (which have tabs), Control-Tab and
Shift-Control-Tab will take you through Agent's MDI child windows
in tab order (forwards or backwards).

You can see the tab-order even when the MDI child windows
are maximized inside Agent (provided you have a check-mark in
"Show Window Tabs" at Tools >> Options >> Display >> Main Window).

When you reply to a message in Agent 5.0 and later...
* The compose window would be last (right-most) in tab order;
* The window you just left could be anywhere in tab order;
* Control-Tab will take you from the last tab to the first tab.
* Shift-Control-Tab will take you from the last tab to the
second-to-last tab.
* It is possible that neither of these two is the window you
just left, which would show the original message.
* To go directly to the window you just left via a key combo,
—» use Control-1 to go to the first tab
—» use Control-2 to go to the second tab
—» use Control-3 to go to the third tab
—» ... etc...
or use the computer rodent (one of its many uses).

[Ralph Fox]

Post by micky
B) I was trying to use Help/F1 and I crashed version 6!
B first. It asked me to send a report but I figured they're not going to
repair version 6 anyhow, so there is no point in sending the report. Is
that so?

B) You would get an automatic reply saying, amongst other things, this:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The report indicates that you are running an older version of Agent
(or an older build of the current version).

The latest Agent, version 8.0 build 1272, fixes a number of problems
and introduces new features.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[micky]

In alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent, on Sat, 02 Dec 2023 16:39:10

Post by Ralph Fox

Post by micky
B) I was trying to use Help/F1 and I crashed version 6!
B first. It asked me to send a report but I figured they're not going to
repair version 6 anyhow, so there is no point in sending the report. Is
that so?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The report indicates that you are running an older version of Agent
(or an older build of the current version).
The latest Agent, version 8.0 build 1272, fixes a number of problems
and introduces new features.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

An answer like that makes sense. So I saved a millimicrowatt of
electricity and my energy by not even trying.