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Testing delivery - alt...Agent
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pyotr filipivich
2023-12-13 16:21:41 UTC
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For reasons unknown, I can't post to a lot of groups because While I
can download the headers,, they're not in the newsgroups listing.
What's with all the Spam posts?
More each day. Today is was over 85,000.
Happening in more groups too.
Is there a way to filter the random variables?
I use xNews as a reader and these are the lines I have in my score filter
file and none of the spam posts are showing in my news reader. Hope this
may help.
GOB
Score:: -9999
Subject: ^[a-z\d]{15}
Subject: \[.{5,5}\]
Subject: ^(?:[a-zA-Z0-9\-\_\,]){15,20}
As we used to say "Can I get an interpretation?"

I tried copying these into Agent, but I think the {} brackets are
causing a syntax error.
If you could tell what they are supposed to be doing, that might
help. E.G the first one I got to work was:
Subject: {^[a-z\d]}
which I read as "at the beginning of line, match any alpha char a to
z, and any digit."
It works for the most part.
{I had to look up \d. and now I think I know what the {15} in the
original part was.) The second and third filters, my system tells me
the syntax is invalid.

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"
Paul S Person
2023-12-13 16:46:36 UTC
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 08:21:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
Post by pyotr filipivich
For reasons unknown, I can't post to a lot of groups because While I
can download the headers,, they're not in the newsgroups listing.
You've probably done this, but checking the server list to make sure
the server the group is on has "yes" in the left column might help.

But, more likely, this is entirely unrelated to your problem.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
pyotr filipivich
2023-12-13 20:11:15 UTC
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Paul S Person <***@old.netcom.invalid> on Wed, 13 Dec 2023
08:46:36 -0800 typed in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent the
Post by Paul S Person
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 08:21:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
Post by pyotr filipivich
For reasons unknown, I can't post to a lot of groups because While I
can download the headers,, they're not in the newsgroups listing.
You've probably done this, but checking the server list to make sure
the server the group is on has "yes" in the left column might help.
I did.

And lo, they are listed. And yea, I can down load headers -
sometimes tens of thousands.

But if I attempt to post to, for example,
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent it will tell me no such group is
carried. Never mind I just down loaded headers and bodies for said
group.
Post by Paul S Person
But, more likely, this is entirely unrelated to your problem.
On the third hand, it has caused me to spend less time on-line, so
I have that.
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pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
Ralph Fox
2023-12-13 21:09:05 UTC
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Post by pyotr filipivich
08:46:36 -0800 typed in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent the
Post by Paul S Person
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 08:21:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
Post by pyotr filipivich
For reasons unknown, I can't post to a lot of groups because While I
can download the headers,, they're not in the newsgroups listing.
You've probably done this, but checking the server list to make sure
the server the group is on has "yes" in the left column might help.
I did.
And lo, they are listed. And yea, I can down load headers -
sometimes tens of thousands.
But if I attempt to post to, for example,
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent it will tell me no such group is
carried. Never mind I just down loaded headers and bodies for said
group.
What is the _exact_ wording of that error message when posting?
Does that error message say this?

| No servers in the access plan carry newsgroup alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.

And did you check the news access plan's 'Posting Messages' tab?
(select folder) >> Folder >> Properties >> News Access Plan >> Posting Messages.
And does the news access plan's 'Posting Messages' tab have any enabled
servers which have *both* a check-mark at the left and an asterisk at
the right?
--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
🦊

“IF YOU DON'T SEE THE FNORD IT CAN'T EAT YOU, DON'T SEE THE FNORD, DON'T SEE THE FNORD . . . I looked back at the paper and still saw the fnords.”
pyotr filipivich
2023-12-14 04:33:32 UTC
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Post by Ralph Fox
Post by pyotr filipivich
08:46:36 -0800 typed in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent the
Post by Paul S Person
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 08:21:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
Post by pyotr filipivich
For reasons unknown, I can't post to a lot of groups because While I
can download the headers,, they're not in the newsgroups listing.
You've probably done this, but checking the server list to make sure
the server the group is on has "yes" in the left column might help.
I did.
And lo, they are listed. And yea, I can down load headers -
sometimes tens of thousands.
But if I attempt to post to, for example,
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent it will tell me no such group is
carried. Never mind I just down loaded headers and bodies for said
group.
What is the _exact_ wording of that error message when posting?
Does that error message say this?
| No servers in the access plan carry newsgroup alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.
Yes
Post by Ralph Fox
And did you check the news access plan's 'Posting Messages' tab?
(select folder) >> Folder >> Properties >> News Access Plan >> Posting Messages.
Yes.
Post by Ralph Fox
And does the news access plan's 'Posting Messages' tab have any enabled
servers which have *both* a check-mark at the left and an asterisk at
the right?
Hmm, yes
giganews
giganews 80
giganews 23 doesn't have the second asterisk
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pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
pyotr filipivich
2023-12-14 04:37:12 UTC
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Post by pyotr filipivich
Post by Ralph Fox
Post by pyotr filipivich
08:46:36 -0800 typed in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent the
Post by Paul S Person
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 08:21:41 -0800, pyotr filipivich
Post by pyotr filipivich
For reasons unknown, I can't post to a lot of groups because While I
can download the headers,, they're not in the newsgroups listing.
You've probably done this, but checking the server list to make sure
the server the group is on has "yes" in the left column might help.
I did.
And lo, they are listed. And yea, I can down load headers -
sometimes tens of thousands.
But if I attempt to post to, for example,
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent it will tell me no such group is
carried. Never mind I just down loaded headers and bodies for said
group.
What is the _exact_ wording of that error message when posting?
Does that error message say this?
| No servers in the access plan carry newsgroup alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.
Yes
Post by Ralph Fox
And did you check the news access plan's 'Posting Messages' tab?
(select folder) >> Folder >> Properties >> News Access Plan >> Posting Messages.
Yes.
Post by Ralph Fox
And does the news access plan's 'Posting Messages' tab have any enabled
servers which have *both* a check-mark at the left and an asterisk at
the right?
Hmm, yes
giganews
giganews 80
giganews 23 doesn't have the second asterisk
I use xNews as a reader and these are the lines I have in my score filter
file and none of the spam posts are showing in my news reader. Hope this
may help.
GOB
Score:: -9999
Subject: ^[a-z\d]{15}
Subject: \[.{5,5}\]
Subject: ^(?:[a-zA-Z0-9\-\_\,]){15,20}
[Seeing as how I cannot post to alt.binaries.e-book.flood via
giganews ("it's not carried in any servers in the access plan",
despite being able to download thousands of headers and the occasional
body from said newsgroup), I shall resort to manually cross posting.
Sigh,.]

Original response:
As we used to say "Can I get an interpretation?"

I tried copying these into Agent, but I think the {} brackets are
causing a syntax error.
If you could tell what they are supposed to be doing, that might
help. E.G the first one I can get to work as
Subject: {^[a-z\d]}
which I read as "at the begriming of line, match any alpha char a to
z, and any digit."
IT works for the most part.
{I had to look up \d. and now I think I know what the {15} in the
original part was.) The second and third filters, my system tells me
the syntax is invalid.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
Ralph Fox
2023-12-14 08:10:16 UTC
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Post by pyotr filipivich
I cannot post to alt.binaries.e-book.flood via
giganews ("it's not carried in any servers in the access plan",
despite being able to download thousands of headers and the occasional
body from said newsgroup)
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846
Your settings on the Posting Messages tab of the News Access Plan
are different to your settings on the Retrieving Headers tab of
the same.

Check both
Folder >> Default Properties >> News Access Plan
and
(select folder) >> Folder >> Properties >> News Access Plan


Brute force fix:
================
On the Posting Messages tab, remove the check-mark from
"Override the Retrieving Headers servers list".
Do this for both Default Properties _and_ Folder Properties.
Do this at Folder Properties for each and every group affected.
--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
🦊

Seldom seen soon forgotten.
pyotr filipivich
2023-12-14 15:45:38 UTC
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Post by Ralph Fox
Post by pyotr filipivich
I cannot post to alt.binaries.e-book.flood via
giganews ("it's not carried in any servers in the access plan",
despite being able to download thousands of headers and the occasional
body from said newsgroup)
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846
Your settings on the Posting Messages tab of the News Access Plan
are different to your settings on the Retrieving Headers tab of
the same.
Check both
Folder >> Default Properties >> News Access Plan
and
(select folder) >> Folder >> Properties >> News Access Plan
Nope, they're all ticked off, err ...
Post by Ralph Fox
================
On the Posting Messages tab, remove the check-mark from
"Override the Retrieving Headers servers list".
Do this for both Default Properties _and_ Folder Properties.
Do this at Folder Properties for each and every group affected.
For what ever reason, there are still two posts in the que which
Agent responds with "No servers in the access plan carry newsgroup
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent"

Lets see if this will post.
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pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
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